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андрей : После военкомата кладут в больницу на осмотр? И берут ли какие нибудь анализы?
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abcd: Hi. My Russian is not very well, so I hope you don't mind if I speak English. Do you have an English speaking forum? Or, better, can you translate your discussions in English so the members from the other countries can participate?
chivotr: abcd You are very welcome to join our forum. I can't wait for your posts. Tell us where are you from and what is your experience of physical exams. If you are really keen on what is discussed here do not worry about a language barrier. We will help.
kelly: Yes, I read your message. If you want to talk here, just your messages will be moderated and translated into any language you want.
maniak: abcd, you are jerker, are n't you?
mahauve: zdravím všetkých, som Slovák, škoda, že neviem rusky, všetko mi prekladá google translator rád by som pokecal, mohol by som písať slovensky? vedel by to niekto preložiť?
Витя111: mahauve Can you write in english. Sorry, but your language is really difficult to understand.
Ruslik: Витя111 Что там словак написал, ты понял?
Витя111: Ruslik Могу только догадываться что он хотел поучаствовать в форуме но не может писать по русски. А гугл со словацкого на русский не переводит. Я ему сказал пусть пишет по английски.
Ruslik: Витя111 Пусть пишет на своём тогда, а мы уж переводить гуглом будем. mahauve Pýtajte sa na tomto fóre, a my Vám odpovieme
mahauve: Thank you so much, my english not very good, but I´ll try to write english. I´m 32 and I like the medical exams. Your experiences are interesting and little bit suprised for me, because medical exam in my country are not so frequent and detailed as your in Russia. We have only professional army and we canceled medical exam for recruits few years ago
Витя111: mahauve Did you personally undergo a draft physicakl exam at any time of your life? What is so special in it for you so that you decided to register and post on at this forum?
mahauve: Витя111 Hi, yes I did. I underwent the physical exams every 2 years in my childhood, and one exam (draft exam for army) in my 18. I like this theme, but other people´s experiences in my country are the same. Your stories and comments are something new for me So I registered. If it is not possible write at this forum from Slovakia, it´s ok, I will respect it
Витя111: mahauve I did not mean you cannot post on this forum. You are very very much welcome:) So tell us how it was to go through a physical as a child? Was the exam at school or you were asked to attend a doctor's office outside your school? What did they check? How far were you told to undress? Was it a group exam or individual? Any tests before the exam? How do you feel now about those events?
mahauve: Витя111 ok In doctor´s office. She was sending an invitation card home. I went with my mother (always). In doctor´s office, I had to strip to underwear. A nurse took my weight, height and a blood pressure while my mother was talking with the doctor about my condition. The doctor checked my sight, hearing and body posture. As last, she told me that I stripped my shorts to the knee and this was the worst thing, because I was very shy, but I had to doing it. She checked my scrotum with her fingers and I had to pull down my foreskin and showed a glans penis. That was a very shameful for me, doctor and nurse looking at me, my mother not, she stayed behind my back. In 11 I had a problem with a foreskin, I went to a hospital. I can´t imagine your feelings from your physical exams, because you have group exams, more doctors and they check you in front of other people. Are people in Russia less shy? Or how do Russians see this public nudity for example in army/doctors? How often do you have the physical exams in Russia now?
Ruslik: mahauve пишет: I went with my mother (always). In doctor´s office, I had to strip to underwear. A nurse took my weight, height and a blood pressure while my mother was talking with the doctor about my condition. Koľko máte rokov potom? Lekár bol muž alebo žena?
Витя111: Ruslik Можно ты тоже будешь писать по английски? Это язык международного общения.
Ruslik: Витя111 Я не знаю ни английского ни словацкого. А гугл понятнее переводит словацкий чем английский. И mahauve будет проще писать на родном языке.
Витя111: mahauve Was it paediatrician or just general practitioner? Did the doctor check your penis and scrotum thoroughly? Did they check your asshole? What age were you when you last have such an exam?
mahauve: Витя111 We have a peditrician to 18 years of life, from 18 years we have a general practitioner. Yes, she did. I think that it was thoroughly, it was a few minutes, but for me an eternity. No, she never checked my asshole. I was 17 if I had such an exam.
mahauve: Ruslik teraz mám 32, takéto prehliadky som mal v detstve asi do 17 rokov, lekár bola žena, ale v nemocnici muž Now, I´m 32, but I had those exam to my 17. The doctor was a woman, in the hospital the doctor was a man.
Ruslik: mahauve Prečo sa trápne, keď lekár povedal, že máte spustiť trochu nohavice? Ste hanbiť za to, že lekár žena, nie muž? Alebo z toho, že v blízkosti bola vaša matka? Vedeli ste, že keď prišiel na lekárske vyšetrenie, ktoré preveria penisu alebo to bolo prekvapenie pre vás?
mahauve: Ruslik Lebo tam bola doktorka a sestrička, cudzí ľudia, nebol som zvyknutý na niečo také. Rovnako by som sa hanbil, keby tam bol muž. Nevedel som to, prekvapilo ma to. Because there were a doctor and nurse - strangers, I was not accustomed to something like this. My shame would be the same even if a doctor was a man. I did not know that a doctor will check my genital.
Ruslik: mahauve Rozumiem tomu správne, že ste v ordinácii lekára bola úplne nahá, alebo len sklopil nohavice pri pohľade z penisu? Ale skôr, než budete prehliadky bolo 12-16 rokov v škole?
mahauve: Ruslik Úplne nahý nie, iba som stiahol slipy ku kolenám. Úplne nahý som bol iba raz v nemocnici. Druhej otázke nerozumiem, skús napísať anglicky. I was not full naked, I stripped my briefs to the knee. I was full naked only one time in the hospital. Sorry, but I don´t understand your second question. Can you ask me in english?
Витя111: mahauve Tell us more about your school physical exams. Ruslik and myself want to know more about them how did they go? Were they in a group or individual? What did you feel before and after the exam? Did you discuss the them with your classmates? And feel free to ask us what is interesting for you.
Ruslik: Витя111 Поспрашивай, пожалуйста, mahauve по английски. Про школьные медосмотры тоже спроси.
mahauve: Витя111 We never had the physical exams at school. I´m surprised, when I read about your school physical exams I wrote: I can´t imagine your feelings from your physical exams, because you have group exams, more doctors and they check you in front of other people. Are people in Russia less shy? Or how do Russians see this public nudity for example in army/doctors? How often do you have the physical exams in Russia now?
Ruslik: mahauve And in our schools each year undergo medical examinations and once that happens the doctor examines the genitals.Then the army, too, is physical, it is also stripped to his underpants and one doctor (surgeon) looking penis, turns to his side and looks obatnoy anus, in the presence of other guys that are in the queue.
mahauve: Ruslik I understand that Russia is big country with lot of people and maybe doctor does not have time for each patient individually. But to my mind, group exams are little bit humiliating. Can you disagree with this type of exam and say no?
Ruslik: mahauve пишет: But to my mind, group exams are little bit humiliating. Can you disagree with this type of exam and say no? Конечно немного унизительно, но при этом немного становилось легче потому что другим также нужно было пройти эту процедуру - снять трусы перед доктором. Но надо заметить что в России также можно пройти индивидуальный медицинский осмотр и тогда проходить в общем потоке не нужно.
Ruslik: mahauve пишет: But to my mind, group exams are little bit humiliating. Can you disagree with this type of exam and say no? Of course a bit humiliating, but it became a little easier because others also had to go through this procedure - remove the panties in front of the doctor. But it should be noted that in Russia you can also go through an individual medical examination and then pass in the general flow is not necessary.
mahauve: Ruslik Thank you for answering. So is possible reject this examination and undergo individual exam for example in army? And what is your personal opinion about group exam? Did you agree with this type examination? I noticed in other theme on this site that most people (65%) agree with full nudity.
Ruslik: mahauve пишет: So is possible reject this examination and undergo individual exam for example in army? In the new Russia since the mid-90s can be, the Soviet Union no. mahauve пишет: And what is your personal opinion about group exam? Did you agree with this type examination? In reality, if I had to run through a medical check-up, I would have experienced the same feelings as then. But if it were possible to take individual examination, I would choose the individual. mahauve пишет: I noticed in other theme on this site that most people (65%) agree with full nudity These figures mean that many users of this forum so want. But relative to the entire population of Russia, this figure is negligible.
mahauve: Ruslik thanks for your answers My physical exams and hospital stay were strong feelings for me. It was something between fear and excitement.
Ruslik: mahauve пишет: It was something between fear and excitement. Exactly
mahauve: Ruslik Are on this site any women too? I would like to know their view.
Ruslik: mahauve Basically this forum for the examination of boys and men in the army, we are only men, and correspondingly physical examination are just guys. Therefore, women on this forum probably not.
mahauve: Ruslik I know, but it must be interesting to know their opinion/view. The doctors are usually women. My older friend told me, that his doctor on draftboard physical exam was a woman too.
Витя111: mahauve I would not say Russians are too shy or less shy. It is all the same as in any other country. Perhaps scandinavians are less concerned about nudity. School physicals were introduced back in ussr so that to make sure all the kids were checked and the illnesses if any were diagnosed early rather than later. That was why every year doctors came to school to do check ups of all pupils. I am not sure how it works now but i think it is pretty the same with the difference that not every year a child has a proper exam. Tell us more about your experience of physical exam as a kid. Did your mother always accompany you? Did you strip to underwear. When doctor came to that part of exam when your genitals were examined, did the doctor lower down your undies or you were told to do so? How far down would your undies go? Was your anus checked? Did the doctor make comments about your sexual development? Was your mum in the exam room at that moment? How did you feel about the exam? Did you discuss it with your friends? Did any of them tell you how they were examined? Too many questions, isn't it? Feel free if you prefer not to answer all of them:)
mahauve: Витя111 The questions are ok, I don´t remember each detail, it was more than 20 years ago Yes, she did. My mother always accompanied me. Usually doctor told me that I stripped my briefs to the knee. Maybe sometimes she lowered down my undies. No doctor never checked my anus. She asked me and my mother about my condition, injuries etc., no expressly about sexual development. I think, she saw everything was ok. My mum was in doctor´s office all the time, but she stayed behind me and she did see checking of my genitals. I was very afraid exams because I was ashamed before doctor and nurse. We made a funny with my friends, because not everyone went to the same doctor, but we did not talk about it in a detailed.
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